Troy Ramirez

[Wolverine]

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Just remember: when you roleplay, you only control the actions of your character.

[Wild Thing]

Seems kind of over-powered to me. Just my 2 cents. Flight, telepathy, elemental control, and fights with swords (no offense but what's the point when you can just rain lightning down on everyone? XD)

[click]

WOW that's a lot of powers.

[Troy Ramirez]

It's kind of sad how you two seem to judge something and completely miss the point. I'm able to manipulate the elements, along with that I can fly plus sense changes in nature. That's one power and two abilities that come from that one power or to put it simply, it's a male version of Storm, just with more elements and a different weakness.

Next is Telepathy #2 power it's very basic compared to Xavier or Jean Gray. now if I had made it at their level than it would be overkill and Wolverine might not have accepted it.

and finally skills are something any human can gain with hard work, there's nothing really special about that. I can list characters in Marvel who has special powers and skills.

Just something to think about.

[Wild Thing]

There's a point? it's a role-play character, with which to role-play, and in our opinion he's over-powered. we didn't miss the point.

our point is that, as you said, he's even more powerful than marvel canon characters, and on top of being able to master his powers, which would be quite the achievement, he can use swords. it just seems like you mashed together every cool thing you could think of, and i guess somehow forgot to make him a ninja pirate too. XD

[Troy Ramirez]

Hmmmmm. I don't see where I said he was stronger than Marvel Canons. Where did you come up with that? Please tell me where I said this.

[toad]

(I also play Click, fyi)

I can see where the elemental/flying stuff all fits together, and I know that the telepathy isn't that strong, but I don't see where telepathy fits into the mix with the other powers. That one just seems sort of tacked-on. I don't have a problem with the sword thing.

While I see how most of them fit together, I would be careful about making your character so powerful, because it will be harder for you to find people willing to rp with you when you A) could kick their ass easily because you have so many powers and B) quite possibly already have their power because your powers cover such a wide spectrum. I went to your thread with my Pyro account, but didn't post because I didn't really want to rp with someone who had the same power as my character (but stronger because yours doesn't need a flame source) and then some.

Just something to think about. I'm not saying that you should totally re-vamp the powers, but if you added in some more weaknesses, it might make others more willing to interact with yours.

[Troy Ramirez]

ah, I see than maybe I'll give a little more detail so there's no confusion:He is only able to create two elements at a time while the other two can only be manipulated, however this put a massive strain on his body so he only would use about 25% of power in each element and this is still too much for him. now if he starts with one element he can just shift between the others and random, however if he starts with two he has to wait before he can shift to a third or fourth or any other about a minute or two. His weaknesses are as stated in the profile like if he is hit with the opposite element of what he is using or manipulating he can be laid out flat. that mean the more elements he uses the his weaknesses grow, but deeper than that the elements he manipulate become apart of his being. Meaning the two or three become connected, which is a good for total control, but bad in the since that depending on the the element controlled instead of being a small single target he becomes a large and vastly open target. for example he will never control earth to attack and defend at the same time because of how much of himself he would have to put into it and with everything that gets done to the earth every minute, he would surly die.

now how that for weaknesses.

[Wild Thing]

Hmmmmm. I don't see where I said he was stronger than Marvel Canons. Where did you come up with that? Please tell me where I said this.

I can assure you i'm better at being passive aggressive than you are. so don't start.

I came up with that here: "it's a male version of Storm, just with more elements and a different weakness." whether or not you meant for it to come off that way, your character still screams "overpowered".

that's not really a good weakness in my opinion. it's like you're saying "I could have made him stronger, but I decided not to. lucky you." It's not really a weakness but a limitation. All he has to do is keep using one element at a time and he stays uber-powerful. or just fly over everyone. like Click/Toad said, I woudln't be psyched to start playing with you, because you'd have an unfair advantage at everything.

I, for example, didn't include Wild Thing's ability to concentrate and make her claws solid in the profile I did for her. why? because A.) it's the movie verse and I can fudge a bit XD and B.) I wanted to limit what she can do. The healing factor makes her hard enough to deal with, and being able to make them solid would have been like playing wolverine with the added capability of doing mental damage. sound cheap? that's because it is. there's a reason Marvel doesn't shove bunches and bunches of powers together (minus with villains, the obvious exception) and frequently kills off characters that do obtain great power (phoenix).

[Troy Ramirez]

okay I do see your view to a point, Trory is a elemental use so many elements fall under that, just like if I were to play as Jean Gray with out the Phoenix Force. she is a telepath, but there are many abilities she can do because of it. Besides this is WAY more toned down than whet I normally have for this power. I left out the black fire element, the elemental teleportation, and the elemental dragon summoning. Also he not that fast so someone like Wolverine would be able to get a few hits on him. Yes he can use many elements, but it does no good if it doesn't connect. I mean you talk as if I'm going to cause elemental storms or such. That would be something called "God-Modding" which people do get banned for. I can understand that people don't want to fight other that are stronger than them and that's why to try to befriend them, to get them on your side. I mean this is a game not the real world, although from your Moon Ring profile it's a wonder you can't tell the differences.

[click]

WOAH. Okay, you two. Let's not get snippy. If you can't get along, don't rp together. It's as simple as that. If you think you can discuss this maturely and without attacking one another, awesome. Otherwise, you should probably back off of this debate. I think this is getting a teensy bit too aggravated--on both of your parts.

Now go to your corners, take a deep breath, and think peaceful thoughts. Please.

[Wild Thing]

I wasn't getting personal, I was telling him to chill out like you, although slightly more aggressively. I'm not being intentionally mean like him, and i'm not being completely insecure and resorting to personal attacks, like him.

black fire and elemental dragons...i'm dropping out of this thread. holy cow. it's like dungeons and dragons smashed into a harry potter book and married the Phoenix. You can try to talk to the unsensible person. I'm done.

^that was a personal attack. XD

[goddess1girl]

OK wild thing most defiantly has a point those powers aren’t really something that a mutant could have, its a little ridiculous that’s all. You should choose to just be able to control the elements but not create it. Its only fair.

~Lynx
ps.i don`t mean to be mean btw

[Wolverine]

I've sent suggestions of what I think is appropriate to Troy Ramirez. He says he will edit his profile.

I think we all must remember a certain site rule: Treat each other with respect. If you cannot treat each other respect, I will have to send warnings.

It's not easy being a new member to a site. In human nature, it is very easy to give criticism; it is a much harder deed to take it. I know this because I have a incredibly hard time taking criticism unless I am sure I want it, yet it's always easy for me to dish it out. Even if you happen to believe someone's character is horrible, it's not nice just to tell them that, especially when they never asked that in the first place.

Wild Thing, I do realize you have good intentions, but you have to make sure that you are not overcritical because not everyone is open to criticism and will take it to heart. People are very connected to their characters, and their feelings can be hurt if you tell them that they're simply wrong without giving them constructive criticism that provides understanding and sensitivity.

[Wild Thing]

I've been spanked! O.O XD I've tried to make it constructive but I know I probably came off more critical. It's just frustrating when he immidiately gets passive aggressive. Since it's an application though, and not just something to fill out, I think he should expect criticism and be able to take it without pouting. I'm not doing it unfairly, as I've created a thread about my character in the writing section to let everyone take all the popshots they want at her.

However, I will try to be more...sensitive (ick) in the future.